Comments on: IEs4Linux 2.5 Beta 5

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Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:20:15 +0000

[...] ! Oui, mais parfois, c’est important pour tester certains sites. Avec la version beta d’Ies4linux, c’est aujourd’hui [...]

By: Zero

Zero — Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:20:10 +0000

Hello,
I tried this version just before. I found out that on my Ubuntu Edgy installtion, it cannot work properly under zh_TW locale (Traditional Chinese, which be used in Taiwan). It popped up a English dialog box, and could not successfully download the files. In the installtion dialog, it shows that it installs the en_US version, which is wrong.

Then, I tried export LANG=en_US. It works now, so I think it might have some locale problem.

Thanks for your works.

By: mbvlist

mbvlist — Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:41:30 +0000

Another bug, this time in IE6: It is a common IE6 problem, that a windowed element (like SELECT) appears to have an infinitely high z-index. There is a solution to that: make an IFrame ‘between’ the overlaying div, and the select box. This is described at
http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/jking/archive/2003/07/21/488.aspx
and http://cssbeauty.com/skillshare/discussion/662/css-dropdowns-behind-select-boxes/#Item_6

However, this trick doesn’t work in ‘your’ IE6 It took me quite some time to figure that out, so no money for you today

By: mbvlist

mbvlist — Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:28:49 +0000

I noticed another annoying problem in IE7: the alert boxes seem to malfunction Just like the Crtl+f find box, while open file works perfectly fine.

By: mbvlist

mbvlist — Sat, 03 Feb 2007 13:27:59 +0000

First of all: thanks for all the great work!

I found some annoying problems in IE6: microsofts web development toolbar (more accurately for beta 3 would be ExploreBug, but a bit ambiguous ) doesn’t show large enough. It shows the buttons, and half of the first line, but it won’t grow larger than that, even when I resize it to the full height.
Worst of all: I can’t find a download site for the Beta 2 version (which probably still works)

The other problem is that the javascript error-screen doesn’t show when clicking the exlamation mark.

By: jim burns

jim burns — Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:14:28 +0000

The ie7 beta is a work in progress. It currently has a mixture of ie6 and ie7 .dll libraries. It has ie7 javascript (jscript.dll, vbscript.dll) and SHOULD have ie7 rendering (mshtml*.*, ieframe.dll, vgx.dll), but the ui is obviously still ie6 (no ie7 shdocvw.dll, which WOULD call ieui.dll). Which .dll controls forms I’m not sure, but you can see a list of what .dlls get copied over starting at line 337 of ies4linux-2.5beta5/lib/install.sh, if you can tell. An off by one could easily occur if they changed the beginning index between ie6 & ie7.

Slopes says ie7 is on the top of his to do list, but it’s going to take more wine development as well, since full ie7 crashes right now. Thank you for the detail of the bug – that makes it easier to test if future version of wine & ies4linux get it right.

By: Ben

Ben — Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:27:54 +0000

Thank you for doing this project. I use it to test my web sites for compatibility with IE from my Linux system.

The IE6 version works well and I find it compatible enough with the windows hosted version to trust how it interprets my style sheets and page layouts.

The IE7 beta does not interpret properly the main form I use. It has Select-Options on it and the beta does not let me click the down arrow to the right of the items for scrolling and showing the list of choices. I tried some forms on various internet sites and confirmed none of them works with the select-option drop down menu.

What does not work is a select-option form with size=1. For sizes 2 or higher, the new beta works correctly. So I think the bug is likely an off by 1 error which shows for single line select-options.

By: Martin

Martin — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:24:57 +0000

> Is there a way I can do this offline? I have no Internet at home and I can only get on on Micro$oft Windows computers.

My two suggestions are:
* try Knoppix
* use a virtual machine

By: Martin

Martin — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:22:48 +0000

> What are you going to do with a browser whose main function IS to access the internet?

I can imagine: he might be one of the thousands of webdevelopers out there.By the way, is there any other reason than looking at the quirks modes and faults of IE rendering websites?
Nobody wants to use IE under linux because it is the “better browser”, since there are browsers available that handle websites much better, especially if they obey webstandards

Here is one thing I encounter on a debian sarge:
The graphical installer greys out the “advanced” tab and throws a few windows saying: “Error in widget ok: Unknown widget function: ‘checked’”.
./ies4linux –install-ie7 –no-gui

By: jim burns

jim burns — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:42:56 +0000

Well, I suppose you could get a friend to install ies4linux on his computer, and have him tar (or otherwise archive) his ~/.ies4linux directory subtree. The downloaded files take up about 35MB. Then you could unpack them on your linux/unix system. You would get his ~/.ies4linux/ie6 directory, containing the wine ie6 install, his ~/.ies4linux/bin directory containing the script that will load ie6, and his ~/.ies4linux/downloads subtree that will let you repeat the install as desired. You probably will not have to tinker with the ies4linux source code. The download() function is in the file ~/ies4linux-version-number/lib/functions.sh (e.g. ~/ies4linux-2.5beta5, not ~/.ies4linux – the first comes from unpacking the ies4linux program, the second is where ies4linux installs things to). The first ‘if’ statement in this function should prevent ‘wget from trying to access the internet so long as the file already exists, and is the correct size.

The question then becomes – What are you going to do with a browser whose main function IS to access the internet? I suppose you could access html help files on your local hard disk.